The Day's Dumpster Fire

Deja's BAAACK And Celebrating 50 Episodes Fire - Episode 50

• Ed and Kara

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Nobody thought it possible that Ed could edit 50 episode of The Day's Dumpster Fire... especially Ed. But here it is in all it's glory. More importantly Deja is back so Kara needs to mediate and work overtime in keeping them in check because they tend to let things fly off the rails. 

In this episode the crew looks back on 50 episodes of a show they had no idea would actually work. Kara, Deja, and Ed reflect on the episodes that had the greatest impact on them as well as those episodes that legitimately changed their lives even in the smallest degree. 

The Day's Dumpster Fire isn't your typical show that explores our species' greatest achievements, but more importantly, the special connection that humanity has with failure and what it teaches us. 

This episodes marks a hallmark in the world of humanity messing things up beyond all recognition. Where it's intentional like Episode 25 where composer seemingly tried to create the worst possible music on par with Geneva Convention War Crimes. Or a gigantic flood of molasses that in Episode 14 that somehow killed a lot of people... in the middle of winter! The crew dives into Salman Rushdie's work as a writer and how it cost him an eye in Episodes 28 and 29

Ed had his daughter on to show the toxicity of the perception of "weight gain" and how it is a detriment to young women everywhere in Episode 34. As well a conversation with a survivor of one of the worst atrocities in human history in Episode 49.

In episodes 30, 28, and 29 as well as Episode 27 where the number of face palms exceeds a normal legal limit in the sheer insanity of humans trying to solve a problem by injecting more problems. 

In Episode 40 a dude by the name of Marv tried to take out his frustrations on his town with a gigantic bulldozer.

Lastly in Episodes 35 and 36, Kara sheds light on King Loui

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Kara:

Hey, everybody, this is Kara.

Deja:

It's déja. And ad.

Kara:

Your days. Dumpster fire. Yeah, we don't celebrate humanity's successes, but it's the most fantastic film.

Deja:

Oh, am I supposed to say that? I'm so sorry. Somebody was. But its most fantastic failures. Don't. Don't feel bad. Our last one was like that. To where it like. I think we're in. No over. So you look at the script and I'm like, Oh. I think we're just known all over the world for having, like, the worst intros known to mankind. You're welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

Kara:

Happy 50th episode. Oh, yeah.

Deja:

Wow. This is going to be this is going to be an episode of all episodes. It is like stupid late at night. We're all tired and we are have we have like no script, we have no outline, we have no plan on what we're doing other than maybe taking a look back at some episodes that stood out to us past and maybe something that we have learned after covering 50 historical dumpster fires. So that's pretty much it. That is all the outline that I have. Um, so should we just started the pilot episode and just take it episode by episode all the way up until 50?

Kara:

Why?

Deja:

That's so much structure.

Kara:

It's too much. What are you, a teacher? We've got like we got like a 50, 60 hour long episode just on a rehash of everything that we have done and.

Deja:

Everything.

Kara:

All of it. Just. Can you imagine?

Deja:

No. I wouldn't do. I wouldn't do very well. Not to mention, like the amount of bandwidth money that I have to put into uploading 5060 hours worth of content to The amount our. of bandwidth my brain would need in order to remember all of these things.

Kara:

Too much. Yeah, it's too much.

Deja:

That's a lot. So. However. But yeah, let's I say we dive straight into it. I know, I know. This show has kind of, like, altered my life a little bit or changed my perspectives on a great deal of things. So, like, I've got a few episodes picked out. Uh, Kara, did you want to start? I know. Danger. You're. I know you're fully prepared. You've. You've got it all figured out.

Kara:

She's ready.

Deja:

Um. Yep. If you're not one of us.

Kara:

Okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Let's start. Let's start with this.

Deja:

As you guys go.

Kara:

Guys. What was your guys's favorite episode to research? Research. Mm.

Deja:

Well, I've only researched so, Adam, I'll let you think on it. My favorite one to research was definitely researching Fergie. That was a lot of. I like that. It was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that. Music episode where all three of us had different music stories.

Kara:

Yeah, that one was fun. Yeah. What was.

Deja:

Talked about Ferg as a whole. Well, and we'll put these episode numbers in in the titles in the show notes so that it's like you can click on them and you can hear why we we thought this was the most fantastic piece of auditory, um, listening that you've ever experienced in your life.

Kara:

Episode 25. It was enjoyable for me to research, especially considering that I got to listen to the worst song ever made like 6000 times. And it was so enjoyable, even though it was supposed to be the worst song that I shared it with the class and they loved it. Was it kids singing like a Christmas Hymn to Labor Day or something like that? Like.

Deja:

Too many holidays

Kara:

Many, many different

Deja:

that.

Kara:

holidays. Starts off with like a cowboy hip hop thing. Hip hop opera. That's right. With some cowboy boots to it. Accordion in there. It's good. Yeah. Look, that was like the one episode that it it was intended to be like the people who created it, like the music. They were focused on making a hot mess of a song. Yeah. The fact that guy did it, we still to get him on the show.

Deja:

It ended up being a hot song.

Kara:

Yeah.

Deja:

As Paris Hilton would say.

Kara:

That's what happens when social scientists create music. Yes.

Deja:

Worst song ever made.

Kara:

Supposedly the best, but the worst one was better than the best song, in my opinion. Yeah.

Deja:

Agreed.

Kara:

Anyway. No.

Deja:

Do your shopping. Walmart.

Kara:

Going to do a. Yeah, it's. Listeners 25 to but go through the song. Yeah. That one. That was. That was. Yeah, that's definitely a good one because we all had to research on that one. Uh, for me, the episode that, that really kind of, I'm like, Wait, is this actually a thing? Was the molasses flood, the 1919 molasses flood? And basically that was, that was episode. What is that number 14? And the reason why this one was so much fun to research is because you've all heard the phrase like slower than molasses on a January day, like that very Midwestern term, like, hey, something can't possibly move this slow. But what the nerd in me when I discovered this property was just like, apparently when you put molasses under pressure, it gets thinner. Kind of like the whole corn starch and water thing, right? You make this oobleck and you hit it and it's like rock hard and then your hand sinks into it. But when molasses, it's the exact opposite. If you put pressure on it, it thins out. And that's why there was like a 30 foot tall tsunami of molasses that like tragically drowned a bunch of people. And but I was just I when I discovered that during the research, I'm like, I had no idea that was a thing.

Deja:

That's pretty crazy. There's nothing more. There's. There's two things I really do not like in this world. And it's molasses and oobleck, so.

Kara:

Yeah.

Deja:

That's

Kara:

Remember,

Deja:

terrifying.

Kara:

we remember when we did summer camp that first year. You had to make Oobleck by yourself. You're so meta. How do we.

Deja:

Oh, I was so angry. I hate Oobleck. And, you know, it's definitely the trauma of early childhood for me. It's always like Dr. Seuss. Do you make Oobleck? I couldn't. I. And molasses.

Kara:

But I.

Deja:

The beginning of every single year and upper elementary, we talk about the story of the universe. And a big part of the story of the universe is talking about the different states of matter and talks about density. And you have to get a good ole waft of. Molasses. It's really gross. It's not that you're wafting molasses. It's just you have to pour it into a tube and you smell it. And I hate that. Yeah. Molasses has a very weird smell. It's, like, too sweet.

Kara:

Can you imagine gallons and gallons and gallons of it flooding the streets? Millions

Deja:

My again. back is tangled. And.

Kara:

You're welcome.

Deja:

Disgusting. I hate. I hate. the manufacture of their giant tank. well, so shot put together at every rivet. Let's just paint the whole tank brown. Therefore, it won't look like it's leaking anymore because explode. And that's the solution. Paint. And it was so popular amongst kids because it was right next to a playground and of all places like. And kids would come out of school and they would stop by the tank and pick up like dried up molasses, because that's like a, you know, a 1919 version of a Jolly Rancher to these to these kids. And it's just like, Okay. All right. Eight, 19, 19. You do. You I'm not going to judge, but that was that was the episode that really stood out to me is just like, into this, the. The crazier

Kara:

Fun fact about me researching is one of my all time favorite things to do.

Deja:

Really didn't know that.

Kara:

So all of them, but. Oh. Oh. Now, come on. My.

Deja:

The.

Kara:

My favorite. I don't have a favorite. I have like a top three, though, that are all equal.

Deja:

Go for it.

Kara:

Roanoke was super fun to read about. I think just the time period I really enjoy. Plus, piracy. Queen Elizabeth first. Can't beat it. It was great. I really enjoyed. The Vietnam War was probably my favorite one to research, just because that's the time period that I spent a lot of time in researching for for college. And I love it and I'm very passionate about that. Piece of American history. And Henry, the eighth is always a good time. Yeah. You can't go wrong with. Can't go wrong with Henry V, and I'm looking through these. And my first episode was Emma. Emma was right. And I'm going up and they get bigger and bigger. Yeah. My time. They get more and more complex and more and more complex. So you can you can see my confidence going up, up and.

Deja:

Absolutely.

Kara:

It's kind of funny. I'm just. No. Yeah, well, yeah, we all kind of did that. Because like Emmy Awards is 52 minutes. And then my Gallipoli flyer, that was an hour and 15. Then we've got an hour eight hour hour for. And then like we start getting up into episodes like ten and above, and now they're like an hour and 36 minutes, an hour and 21 hour and 36 hour, 56. Two partners. Some three partners. Yeah, the multiple parties are a lot of fun. Yeah, Those are fun. They they really mean. Not only do you have to figure out what the whole, like flow of the story is going to be, but then how do you break it up and then how do you. Like, it's it's like a J.K. Rowling, you know, seven Harry Potter books. How do you make it all converge

Deja:

Make sense.

Kara:

Make it make sense.

Deja:

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. What is all of this for?

Kara:

Why are we.

Deja:

Yeah. Yep. By reading this? Yeah. I definitely think that I had a really hard time with, um. Salman Rushdie. That one was really hard for me, just because I wanted to make sure that, one, the information was accurate. Because it's a lot of information. There's a lot of moving pieces, and I feel like I didn't even hit every aspect of it that I that you can go into so many different avenues, so many paths within the story. And I'll take you to another. Fire over here. That's that we got to deal with, you know, And so.

Kara:

Iceberg effect. That's what happened when I did Hindenburg.

Deja:

Yeah, it's just it's just one thing after another, and there's, like, these. Bunches of different snowballs that are just rolling in different directions but getting bigger as they roll. It's about time, you know. But I also think that it was the most impactful for me. know, I think it was the what I was most passionate about, just because I. I am not. Not only do I find cultural. Cultural differences within a culture. Very fascinating. Like you have this you know, you have these you have Muslims, you know, and you have this divide. And I find that that divide very interesting in how how the the relationship acts within. But also it was very funny in some ways because there were a lot of really funny things that kind of break into the really bad things going on. Yeah, the. Well, it. The thing that that that stood out to me about the Salman Rushdie is was just like what you said the cultural differences because my best friend in high school was Muslim and here I am, Christian, and we obviously look at the same time periods in history vastly differently as I just use two adverbs in a row. But we look at it. We look at. We're moving past it. Yeah. We go, we, yeah, we see things so differently, but yet we are so aligned so many things. And that's why I like Salman Rushdie is I, I, he would be a guy that I just want to sit down with for an afternoon and just talk to because the stuff that he brought. In like a cave, probably, but. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhere undisclosed. Um, just for all of our safeties. But. But yeah, it's the other thing too, is just like, how much impact one book had the world. every country had to sit down and think, okay, do we want this book in our libraries, in our bookstores? Like, everybody had to sit down and discuss that. And it's not like Rushdie was trying to be super political. He wasn't trying to start a movement or criticize. He was just trying to write a different story. And the whole world just just imploded over it. That was the thing that I loved about it. Yeah, the reaction was. I mean, it made me read it. Yeah. What is it for? Yeah. You wonder what? Yeah, you wonder. Okay. The reaction is so insane. What? Why? Y y you know what is in this book? That is so. Offensive. Bad, you know? Yeah. Just so out of this world that people are cutting people's heads off or, you know. Well, and it completely digresses from the original really, really offensive books like, you know, stuff written by Mark Twain. Oh, my God. It says the N-word a lot of times in it. Yeah, that's because the people that are saying it, he's portraying them as a bunch of ignorant, racist pieces of crap. That's what Twain was trying to do, was show that the people that are racists and say the N-word all the time are pieces of crap, whereas someone didn't do that. He wasn't trying to piss off the entire world, but boy did. No, I think it was something that he knew would possibly probably stir up. Some tension, But I don't think that he. I think he knew that he was ruffling up some feathers. But I don't think that he knew, too, what magnet duty was ruffling those feathers. Like, is that chicken going to have any more feathers left? I don't know. Because Yeah, I just yeah, I think there's so, there's so much within it that is really fascinating and He's got involved. You've got pop, you know, political figures and ties that you know. It's crazy. It is? Yeah. From a novel.

Kara:

You could. If you could pick like one or two lessons from that, what would you say it would be? Out of out of the Salman Rushdie episodes or just out of luck. What we've. For four days was Salman Rushdie.

Deja:

Three of them. I think the first one is don't.

Kara:

One or two.

Deja:

Don't write a book like that. Just don't write anything near. Don't take nothing. Go far away from there. Personally. Someone else. I need other people to. To push that line. We need those people to push the line. Otherwise, we don't. We don't have the ability to fight for morality. I guess, as is a thing like, we have to have bad things, and it's going to happen. We have to find a way to use it, just like we're doing right now. I need to find something I'm taking away from it. What's something I can learn from it? You know? But yeah, not writing a book like this, because I think I'm not the one who wants to ruffle feathers. stabbed in the eye. I don't know. I don't. I do. Not actually. At all. Firmly.

Kara:

You want to be a pirate?

Deja:

Say that? I didn't say I don't want to be a pirate. I said, I don't want to be stabbed in the eye. I want both my eyes and both my legs, Please. Okay. Being a pirate. Yeah. Argh! She blow. But keep my eye. But no, I think that my biggest maybe my biggest take away from this is just having the freedom to say the things that you want to say, but also knowing how to say those things respectfully. And I don't think that that is necessarily like to one single person or to a mass of people. I think in general, you know, you need to be respectful in every situation that you're in. It's it you know, it's the way that you should want to work, you know, And other people aren't always going to take that. But use I don't know, it's consideration. I don't know. I think it's such a. Oh, no. I think he had a little bit of feeling and that kind of gets to me a little bit. You know, I feel like if you if you have an idea that this could really cause a lot of harm, then maybe not doing it. But at the same time, I'm like, we need people to do those things because we need to be able to say this. The stuff that we want to say. Oh. The stuff that we All want those to say. or these?

Kara:

No. All of these.

Deja:

Speaking of freedom of speech. No, just kidding. Oh, yeah. It's really it's a double edged sword because I think we should be able to say the things that we want to say. And I think that we should fight for those for that. Right. You know. But I also find it very frustrating when people can do that. I find it frustrating when people play devil's advocate. You know, and because you are actually harming in some way, you're intentionally frustrating in some way. You know, if you knew that this is going to probably do something, then your intentions are a little weird. You know, that's that's one thing. But I also appreciate his writing ability and what he does stand for. So it's yeah, it's kind of hard. I feel like you're looking straight at me. DEJA When you said the thing about the devil's advocate, because that is like the I hate when people play devil's advocate at. It is. My go to method of teaching for a lot of things is like, I'm not trying to piss you off, I'm just trying to show you the other side and it works better for 12 year olds. I think. Well, I think that there's. As a natural empath for me. I can naturally I naturally feel like I can see the other side. So I feel like devil's advocate for someone like me doesn't really work because I already feel like I'm trying to walk in their shoes. I'm already thinking as if, you know, I'm feeling for them. That's what an empath does. So it's really hard when someone does push those. It makes me feel anxious. I'm like a. You know, so. So. Yeah. I don't know. It's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess my thing is I've always. Yeah, I've. I've always just taken that line for it. To Kill a mockingbird of walking a mile in somebody else's shoes, which is kind of like the thesis statement for the whole entire book. And. Sure. That's like something that I've always held on to, not always fully understanding that there's people that just naturally do that.

Kara:

I'm also one of those people too. I can naturally easily see all the sides, the big picture, this person's view versus that person's view. It's really easy for me.

Deja:

Yeah. Yeah. And I think. For.

Kara:

But I.

Deja:

Not that I would take. Yeah. And like I that's the thing is I also. Yeah. I completely understand why someone's like, well. There's someone needs to push these lines. Otherwise, like what's ever going to change, you know, that needs to be done. I'm not that person to do it, but someone needs to do it, you know? Yeah. But I think that I also me personally and maybe Kara, even though I don't side with any extremists, I can understand the upset that when reading this novel, if you have a deep sense of of belief in this and this religion and this and this faith that, you know, that would naturally upset me if someone, you know, people upset me all the time, I feel like that would naturally just upset me, you know? Yeah. Especially if you have an obligation to that, to that. It's. Mm hmm. But hey, you. You've got to act on that. And left. a while on the topic. Yes. And, uh. On the topic of perspectives, I kind of want to do a shout out for episode 34. So do. The one that I did with my daughter. And that one because she, um, she had an eating disorder issue that she went to a hospital for, got treatment for it. And then. And now she's doing pretty good. I've had many, many, many people say that they I have some parents tell me as well as some, uh, some girls like, oh, this was an interesting perspective to get on somebody who's actually going through this. And it was kind of an eye opener for me because, yeah, I mean, I've been working with her and all that kind of stuff. But to actually have her tell her story her way, where I actually got to walk that mile in her shoes, it's not every day that a parent gets to learn so much from their own children.

Kara:

Yeah. That was

Deja:

I'm

Kara:

probably.

Deja:

just

Kara:

Really?

Deja:

going to I, I applaud you for that, honestly. You know. Not me. That's. That. She's the one.

Kara:

Like sitting down and listening and letting her do that, giving her the platform.

Deja:

100%. I think as someone who struggled with mental health as a teenager and, you know, I, I felt like I was so alone and I felt like, you know, I felt like no one was really listening. No one really, truly understood or could really you know, I hid away for so much and for you to recognize that, you know, these are things that she's struggling with as a human. And not only, you know, do I want to help her, but if she wants to talk about it, if she wants to educate others on X, Y and Z, I want to help her and support her, spread her word. You know, I think that's really important as a parent. And wanted her to have that platform and she it and ran with it. was. Absolutely. Yeah, it was a it was a really, really experience. Kind of like our, episode 49 where we had, um, the Holocaust survivor, Charlotte. Mm hmm. Come aboard and talk to our class and all that stuff about her experiences being in hiding and whatnot. And it's just one of those things. It's just like these kids and I hate to work that way, these kids, but our students, they're that that is the last generation that is ever going to be able to talk to somebody who has experienced that particular event. And they got to see her perspective through it all and what she was feeling through it all and how very similar the anxieties that Charlotte had are very similar to what a 12 year old girl is going through like. You could have you could have a 12 year old whose parents are getting divorced and she doesn't know what's going to happen. Neither did Charlotte. She had no idea what was going to happen as a result. And and that was an eye opening experience for a lot of these kids to be able to be like, Oh. Hmm. Maybe I'm not going to tell my parents that I hate them when I get mad at them because they shut off the Xbox from Fortnite for the night. Like, I feel like a lot of them were like, Oh, okay. Um. Model. Grateful now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I think that's kind of what I like about this show. I, I, I feel like this three of us have very different perspectives, we try to arrange it so that the listener, the audience can take something from it. You can take away, like I know a lot of my stuff tends to be more sciency, more engineering, more technology. Um, whereas like is very much into the history and the nitty gritty of historical events and then danger, you're more into like the music and the culture and the pop culture and all that. I just find it fascinating that somebody who is a pop culture person can listen to Kara's episode on Roanoke take something from that. Or there could be somebody I know I have one one person in our audience who is just like all about the math and the science. then he was like a huge fan of the music episode because he was able to take something from it. and I think that's what I, I kind of want to have as a goal for the show is to be like, Hey, yeah, we're going to we're going to talk about these wild and crazy and just like I'm working on an episode about the Panama Canal and like, what were the French thinking in, in the 1880s? But like, I, I want it so that, yes, you can hear this crazy story, but, um, you can pull something out of it that, that can you out, that makes sense. Help build your morality. Yes. Much like Caligula on fire. Oh, my gosh. Episode. Name. I was skimming over the episodes and I saw Caligula and I was like, Is that in the throat? And I was like, Nope, that's little boots.

Kara:

That's it. That's it. Wow.

Deja:

Caligula. It just reminds me of, like, a like something in your esophagus. I don't know. Sorry. When you.

Kara:

have a sports accident. Be grateful you didn't go crazy. I was just thinking of that 1977 movie. No.

Deja:

Do that. Don't do that.

Kara:

Ever mention it again. an adult version of this show, that would be a good movie to talk about because it's so unbelievably adult and stupid at the same time. I don't know if I would want to waste 3 hours of my time watching it.

Deja:

I agree. Also, I feel like, Kara, maybe you have some heavy feelings on this, but, um, 1984, the movie from the seventies. It's a no. It's it's a no for me dog. It's a bush, you know.

Kara:

Me too, Ro. I know it's very of its time and you can really feel the seven years of it. I will say that I do appreciate at the same time. Okay, It's not great, but.

Deja:

And also.

Kara:

I do have an appreciation for films. This is this is a film. We're talking four films out of the seventies because they were so none of oddly unafraid to push boundaries.

Deja:

Oh, I 100% agree.

Kara:

I do kind of appreciate that film for that reason. But also it wasn't great.

Deja:

I'm really happy that you appreciate that film.

Kara:

I can appreciate it. For

Deja:

Also.

Kara:

what?

Deja:

It's not good.

Kara:

It does not do my favorite novel justice. But the film side of me is like, I can appreciate it.

Deja:

You're like, Well, no, I can I can completely understand that. It's like Star Wars, you know, it's like a new hope is it's amazing for its time. It's amazing for its time. They really they really did what they what they they really pushed a lot of limits. And but now, looking back at it, you're like, nice story. You know,

Kara:

Look at the fishing

Deja:

you

Kara:

wire.

Deja:

really see. Yeah. Oh, look at that. So, no, I completely. Star explodes like a fireball in space. Like. Wow. Yeah. No, I, i that i, i, I totally get. And I feel like when we were looking at movies in the seventies and going in the eighties, the technology was kinda coming around where they could do things with like bigger scope and bigger world building and stuff like that. And they were really, really, really handicapped of like their, their ability to tell the story was kind of handicapped based on how can they visually show this?

Kara:

Can I also say, though, that if it's done right and it's done well, practical effects are way better than. Yes. In it.

Deja:

Period. Period. Like a breakfast club. That that movie applies to any generation, anybody who's going Timeless to. movie. And.

Kara:

Thinking about the fly. We went in very different directions. Oh, yeah. No, the fly. Yeah. That's that. Yes. That, that would be that. That's a prime example. I love that movie. Breakfast Club classic Love Breakfast. I'm like, We really got to do some movies on or movie some episodes on movies that just absolutely flopped, like Waterworld. Yeah, we got to do that. I liked Waterworld.

Deja:

Like. It was a good movie, but I think it made like negative dollars. You know, it's like Kevin Costner riding off the heels of, um, Dances With Wolves. And, boy, did he not come through on that movie. But I. I don't know. I thought it was good. But we should do more movies.

Kara:

I agree. Not Caligula, though. No, not Caligula.

Deja:

Nor Twilight.

Kara:

No, I mean, you could do the research for Twilight without watching it. Or if you want to watch it, just laugh at it.

Deja:

I mean, I might watch it. I might watch it just to, one, get aggressively angry at the Whigs again to. The Whigs managed it all the time. Every time.

Kara:

Oh, great. Yeah. Love it. Um, what about the episodes that. That kind of, like, infuriated you? Because there was ignorance going on that the higher ups were aware of. Like, this is not going according to plan, but we're going to ask you to keep covering it up and covering it up and covering it up. Mine's the same. I love the smell of lead. Yeah. That one's pretty.

Deja:

I. That one popped up in my brain, too. Yeah, the lot of gasoline. And I do know that I really want to do an episode on the Radium Girls.

Kara:

Yeah, we've been talking about that for a long time. And that one I'm just trying to juggle how do I want to word this? How do I want to do it right? Because the owners of this factory purposely hired scientists to lie to these women. And then when they had teeth falling out of their head and their jaws are breaking in half and one lady had a cancerous tumor on her hip bone so bad that she could barely walk. And then these guys basically said, sorry, what problems? What if this is all in your head? And so like, yes, we've got the radium thing and and I can give a a degree of understanding that the effects of radium weren't well researched, but the fact that they knew that they knew that there is a connection between these women suffering and and this radium, and then they just gaslit them afterwards and they and they succeeded. They got like a majority for a long time to get the majority of the public thinking that, oh, they're just young girls, they're just they're just doing young girl things. And that's kind of how I want to be able to tell that story. I just don't know how to do it. And not come across as some patronising old fat man.

Deja:

Well, I don't know if anything you do is going to change that, but. Can't say. I'm just kidding. I love you. With love of. Well, it's kind of like telling the story of like what happened to Native Americans and early American history, like. As an American. Yeah, as it is a white, fat, middle aged American like I don't care. And I mentioned it a couple of times, like we have to have like a native American professor, come in and tell the story because I. You know, I have I have a good idea that maybe we can chat about. But in North Dakota, there's obviously a lot of Native American museums, there's a lot of indigenous people included in a lot of their museums. No matter where you are in North Dakota, it's very big out there. Dinosaurs and indigenous tribes. And so I think if I could try and find a connection to to someone, that would be really, that'd be really cool to. That would be. That would be a fascinating We. conversation. It'd be really cool. Yeah, that's a that's. Thought we can chat about later, but.

Kara:

Workshop that I like that. How about how about one where you face palmed the most? Oh, I. I know this one. I know it, too.

Deja:

We all. I can guess what's going to come into your guys's mind's eye. Because I kept. What do you think is in my head? The Torrey Canyon. That's the exact one that was in my.

Kara:

Seven. Heating oil. thought of two immediately.

Deja:

First. They were going through this because I did the same thing when I was researching it. I'm like, Oh, what are they doing? And it's just like, Oh, and then they tried bombing it and then they tried firebombing it and then they drove away. It's worse. But wait, there's more. I. I think I had a bruise on my forehead for two. For the amount of times I smacked my head onto my table or the palm of my hand.

Kara:

Pretty sure No, my forget. temples were red. The only time we've ever done a recording where you just like, can we this and this and this is what? Purposely yawning. Oh, yeah. Uh huh.

Deja:

All we got is we started this like 8:00 alert. I think the Salem Witch Trials is another example of that. Oh, man, I wish I could have been there for that one or the other. Oh. I was just like, what are we actually human beings that are making these decisions and then drawing these conclusions? Yes, we are. Surely are, Ed. The one and only. Yeah. That's it. That, that that was I would say that's another heavily, uh, phase. Pull me one And then they're China's gunpowder firing fireworks for. I was. To say that I was too.

Kara:

So dumb.

Deja:

I was going to say.

Kara:

How many ways can.

Deja:

Different ways to explode some.

Kara:

How many different ways can we try to make a human fly? Yeah. Like,

Deja:

Oh. I don't know, man. That was. That was a wild one. I think Mythbusters tested that one. And. It's

Kara:

Learned.

Deja:

on a test at one.

Kara:

Lesson learned from that one experiment. With a dummy before Yeah. yourself. Yeah. Experiment with a dummy before you throw your emperor on it.

Deja:

Do you guys remember that guy that strapped his lawn chair to all those balloons so that he could? I was like, so that you could. Oh, there was something he wanted to get out of, but he literally was just like, you just went all the way up in his lawn chair. It was up there for I don't know how long he ended up. I think he ended up getting like a really big fine for air. Air violation or whatever. he had a B.B. gun, too. Go and shoot the balloons to bring himself down. That was like Mythbusters, like first or second season. That was that would be a good one. Like, if just like. To turn. Well, we've got Mars big bulldozer construction. Oh, my gosh. To take out an entire town just with a bulldozer. Ways to turn. I'm trying to think what? Which one do you think was the funniest episode?

Kara:

The music one.

Deja:

Yeah, the music one we also did. I think King was a virgin. I can't remember if it was virgin.

Kara:

Louis.

Deja:

Louis that.

Kara:

And is the World War One.

Deja:

Good time. It.

Kara:

We had a good time with the

Deja:

One

Kara:

first

Deja:

at.

Kara:

part, the first part of King Louie. Yep. Where I could not pronounce the word Thai is for the life of me because I've only ever read it. I've never actually heard it said aloud.

Deja:

Somebody didn't get baptized. We could talk, Kara, as a part of the clergy. Someone's not saved.

Kara:

It's. Well, it. And it helped, too. I just got that mixer, and then I'm like, Oh, wait. Let's play with the the sensor button. And so then, like, I'm just censoring.

Deja:

Look at all those people. So all those these. That was a good one. I enjoyed. And we and we also got to be together. And I think that it's so fun when we're together. Yeah, we need to do it again. We just got to stop living, like, 120 miles away from each other.

Kara:

Secondly, my fault.

Deja:

I. don't know. I mean. How about that? I think you're kind of out there first. I think I'm there's no one to blame here. We all have our moments and we're a team. Well, you and I, we're closer now, aren't we? Yes, we're much closer.

Kara:

It's like up. Oh, yeah. Fine.

Deja:

But I have children, so it's.

Kara:

That's true. Yeah.

Deja:

Like by by default. My toddler makes it my fault. Yeah. It's always a really kind of weird moment. You're like, Oh, I got to put the spawn down, like. Who? Never. I didn't know you were a You fish, don't refer but. to your Okay. child as a spine. He is my little spine. Technically speaking, yes. know that.

Kara:

future. episode? I know an audience for this. What is an episode that you really, really, really want to do?

Deja:

Oh, gosh, there's a couple that I've brought up, and there's a couple that I've thought about or have heard of and I'm just like, They're very true crime. So. They are a little bit heavier. Some of them. One of them is really bad. It's so funny, though. It's really bad. But it's really funny. It's kind of sad, but it's really funny at the same time. However, everything else is a little bit rough, so.

Kara:

Are you going to

Deja:

Very

Kara:

say?

Deja:

true.

Kara:

Is. Are you going to.

Deja:

Well, I'm. I'm trying to decide. I don't think I'm going to tell you what, like one or two of them, because I just recently. I know market as far as I always tell you guys what I'm going to do. I wasn't up till you.

Kara:

It's okay.

Deja:

So let me just surprise you for what's taking it. Just getting to know, you know, the Lego one. The Lego.

Kara:

Oh, yeah, That's a sick one.

Deja:

Failure where Norway and Sweden are getting or no, what it was like England and Sweden are getting Legos washed up on shore because a boat just Yeah, it's a whole thing with a it's a whole Lego mess. It's great.

Kara:

The whole thing. I've never heard of that.

Deja:

You are obviously under a rock. Yeah. Cause I Patrick. got thousands of dollars for the Legos in my house. I would have. Somebody would have found them. All were walking barefoot on the beach. I mean,

Kara:

That's true. that's like every parent.

Deja:

People are finding them. Wonder how. Like, oh, like have a whole parade of people just saying, oh, collectively dancing around, catching their. Only the parents, though. Only the parents. The kids are just like.

Kara:

Oh. Like pull them out of their nose and their ears.

Deja:

Just. So. Oh, God. This logo for you. Do your boy word logos for me. I voted out of law. And then you then you step out of your life and you're like, Oh, crap. It's really funny. And as someone who has literally thousands of dollars of Legos. Yeah. Okay. Stashed away. One. Was It's record. pretty good. There's one about a head. It's kind of spooky.

Kara:

I like Spooky. Just a random head. Yeah,

Deja:

Well, no, it belonged

Kara:

did.

Deja:

to someone.

Kara:

Person. So.

Deja:

Yes. Trying to think of. I've. It was. feel like maybe. I don't know. Maybe you have. Maybe you haven't. Maybe it's new, maybe it's not. But it's really funny. It's very fascinating. It's very cool. You have to be open minded because it is a person normally. Kind of. Story. you're picking up what I'm putting down, Ed, but. Yep, I. Yeah. I don't know. That would be a good one any. I feel like I really want to venture. Well, I think any crime where we're like the police has botched it up. Like there are so many Yeah. true crime cases where the police just just dropped the ball on on day one and like, oh, what, what was the one where. Think. Oh, go ahead. No. What? What are you talking about? Oh, I was thinking of the one where the guy killed his mother and stuffed her in that chest freezer in the garage. And then they brought the chest freezer into the police station and they never opened it until and they never plugged it in until like a week or two later, they heard a smell coming from and this chest freezer was sitting in the evidence room for like two weeks with this dude's dead grandmother in it or her mother or something like that. And then they were like, Oh, maybe we should open up the chest freezer. And then here we are, a Cuban human. A dead body. My goodness. Yeah, I got to put in the details on I. that one. Like, guys. You do? Because that's. That sounds fascinating. It's very again, very. Yeah. Norman. Norman Bates. Yeah. Where's this? What's worse is Mom's never. Like a mom is just like a bit much. She was really. She. Yeah. So she was, like, super overbearing, like, very protective, but very awful to have very abusive. And so it it gave him, like, this really unhealthy relationship with her. Yeah. I mean, we can talk about skin lamps and nipple belts later.

Kara:

Whew. Or the vest that

Deja:

You. he made of.

Kara:

The chair. Yeah. The cherry.

Deja:

Yeah. The chair. I mean, there's the things in true crime. I feel like I absorb so much true crime and, like, spooky stuff because it's very just my pastime, and I want to bring that to the show. You know, give a little if if you're up for a little spook, you have the option, right?

Kara:

Please do. I love this.

Deja:

No spooky girl. There's those investigators that initially went into the house. And how many times do you think they said, oh, God. And then they turn a corner and then, oh, God. And they go to the next room like, oh, God, it's just. How many times do you think they weren't able to say, Oh, God. I remember listening to a podcast about that and I'm just driving in my car and I was doing the same thing. I'm like, You. I am the. Yeah. Like, Oh, I don't like that. Like I'm. Time there's like a head on a pie. I'm like, Oh. And we went there.

Kara:

Fun fact. Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by that whole thing. Very.

Deja:

It sure was. Very loosely. Bates Motel. Norman Bates.

Kara:

Mm.

Deja:

There's a lot of them that are a lot of things that people don't really realize, even in books and stuff like that are based off like loosely based off of Adkins case.

Kara:

Yeah.

Deja:

So we should. His his shenanigans. His hobbies. If that's what you want to call it. His hobby is. Time. That's too cute of a name. You call those hobbies. Hobbies are cute. Hobbies are fun. Like like knitting and, like, making little trinkets out of clay and.

Kara:

Book Nook.

Deja:

And not nipple belts and lamps made of skin.

Kara:

Well, now I know they just ready to bring to the.

Deja:

Save. That David is going to bring this to the next level. What about you, Keira? I'm going to try to keep it kid friendly also.

Kara:

Appreciate it. It's good. It's good for me. I I'm actually starting research on one, but I'm going to keep that under wraps for now.

Deja:

Who?

Kara:

Welcome. Otherwise, there's a few I want to do. There's the one where a war was started over a pig. Oh, yeah. There's also the one that was started over a bucket. So war started over really stupid things, but there's obviously like background and historical context story. But it's a fun time.

Deja:

Right. love that.

Kara:

I kind of want to do like a film one or something with cowboys. This is this is my process. I'm like, I kind of want to be in this era or I want to be in this space. And then I go and look for a fire. So it's not like because I've done all the big fires of already want it done. Now I have to do research for my research, which I love. So it's enjoyable for me.

Deja:

I like the way that you process your research. Like how you want to research. You're like, Oh, so what timeframe do I want to be in?

Kara:

Yeah.

Deja:

Okay,

Kara:

Like.

Deja:

I want to be, you know, I love that.

Kara:

I'm feeling like a cowboy today, so I'm going to go find something. Cowboy. Got like a dartboard.

Deja:

Get on up, partner. Get a dart board with this, A whole litany.

Kara:

A giant timeline. Gates just boom, Right. Yeah. That's what I should get. I should get.

Deja:

I pictured.

Kara:

Hi.

Deja:

I pictured her having this like a circle like ring type thing that she lifts up in the air and it has these drapes that come down. And then she goes inside and it's like a little dressing thing, instant dresser thing, anything that picks out her clothes and which she steps out. And that's the time era that she's. Victorian

Kara:

Good.

Deja:

hit. That's the area that she used to go.

Kara:

Victorian. That'd be kind of fun to. Victorian.

Deja:

On earth. You've. Oh, gosh.

Kara:

Do I have an idea? I do. I could do, like, some P.T. Barnum action. Oh, yeah.

Deja:

Who? Customs that came out of that time period of what was considered modest or what was considered polite or. Like what was considered attractive or.

Kara:

Yeah, I have a I have some very strong opinions when it comes to the Victorian era, so I do have to be careful. But there are some things that I can pick out of there that be really fun.

Deja:

Sometimes it's it's. Well, sometimes it's fun to see you sweat. So maybe I'll ask you a tricky question so that I can push the line.

Kara:

Yes. Well.

Deja:

However, my opinion.

Kara:

Well, no, it will not it for later because I am in the process of researching one already. But Then I want to do an episode where, um, I want to talk more about clues. And clues is where a system of something fails, but there is nobody around that knows how to fix it because it is so complicated and so antiquated. Like there is an airport that.

Deja:

Like the education system. Yes. Um, as Kerry's is like, I'm not saying anything. But there is, like, that one case where the, uh, an airport, I want to say was in Texas had to shut down because their flight tracking software was built in the seventies and it was like 30 years outdated. And the original guy that knew how to fix the problem had long since died and nobody knew how how to fix this thing. I kind of want to do something in that realm where the the solution to the problem is not simple, and nobody's around to figure it out.

Kara:

So for my history nerds, it's like when a king dies and he doesn't have a successor. Oh, yeah. Just because. Boom.

Deja:

Wait. But who's going to lead us?

Kara:

You mean? There's a lot. Like the rose wars and how that all started and. I actually thought about doing an episode on the War of the Roses. That would be a good one. Be a long one. I would make it wait. That's complicated, though. There's. That's why I haven't done it yet. Yeah, there's a lot to that one. I could. I could do it. But I just, you know, like, any time that's like a summer project. Yeah. I wouldn't mind doing something on like. The space program. I know I've done Hubble. but it like all the how how like, how did America get to the moon by, like, thousands of dumpster fires along the way. Every single thing they fixed was, like they almost lost these astronauts in space as a result, or the really janky ways that they figured out how to, like, fix something in space involving tape or just changing a light bulb so that the light turns on. And then you can go home like just a lot of really janky stuff like that, that the good old fashioned American ingenuity. those would be some interesting.

Deja:

We love shortcuts.

Kara:

MacGyver. Just MacGyver it up. Yes.

Deja:

Mm. So. Yeah.

Kara:

I think that was a pretty good overview. Yeah. Look, a good recap. So.

Deja:

Fun. Little recap. Yeah. It will. Previously on the day's Dumpster Fire. We talked about our show.

Kara:

I've been watching yellow jackets, and that's just what I was reminded of. Previously on Yellow Jackets. I've been watching the Pit. On HBO. I've always loved those medical shows, but the pit is like, very accurate to like actual E.R. stuff and it's. And I love Noel Wiley, like. Would you just Grew finish up watching a. Jason? What did you just finish watching? Deja I got tongue tied.

Deja:

JJ. what did I just. Oh, um, the. What's it called? Oh, the one with the Mormons and the Indians on Netflix. I know that sounds terrible. That's not like the best way to just.

Kara:

think I know what you're talking.

Deja:

Information, but.

Kara:

That had just come out.

Deja:

New. It's on.

Kara:

Yeah.

Deja:

Yeah, it just came out and it's so good. It's got I don't know if anyone's familiar with Daddy daycare, but it's got the guy that plays Melvin. The. The the guy who really likes Star Trek.

Kara:

Yeah, I forget his name, but I know exactly.

Deja:

The Cowboys.

Kara:

I actually

Deja:

That's

Kara:

watched the.

Deja:

fun fact.

Kara:

I haven't watched all of the.

Deja:

It's super good. I actually like was stressed out waiting to watch it. When I had to wait, I was like, I can't do this. This is torturous. So what? I search Mormons and Indians. No.

Kara:

We'll find the title for you.

Deja:

It's American Primal, I think.

Kara:

Oh, yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, that sounds right. Oh, American primeval.

Deja:

Yes, that's what it is. There it is.

Kara:

I heard It's really good. I haven't watched all of it yet

Deja:

It's

Kara:

because.

Deja:

very good.

Kara:

Yellow Jackets just came out. But I will sit down and watch it. Yeah, I'm going to watch that. Um, I had a history.

Deja:

It's really good. College it that's what he focuses on was this time period of the Mormons and interactions going out West and Utah and all that kind of stuff. I find it fascinating just because in Arizona you are I don't know. I just feel like we have so much indigenous culture around us. And then I also come from a family of Mormons. So it's just really it was just very it's a time piece for sure. I definitely think. I'm going to be looking that up tonight. So much for getting sleep.

Kara:

Well, now all the listeners got our taste in TV shows. Let's, uh, let's wrap it up here. Because we're at an hour.

Deja:

Are you would squished my toe.

Kara:

Are you gay?

Deja:

Yeah.

Kara:

Oh, sorry.

Deja:

I tried so hard not to scream.

Kara:

But thanks for listening, everybody. And what do you got next for us? Yeah, I got, uh, I'm working on the, um, uh, the Panama Canal. Okay. Like I mentioned a little bit ago, like, but what did the French do to start it? And absolutely fail miserably. And then the Americans bought it from them and then had to, like, rebuild everything. They had to redo everything from scratch. That's going to be an episode. You're going to do a lot of phase bombs on. Great. It's gonna be like, what? What are you guys thinking here? Um, see? Yeah, that's. That's probably going to be our our next episode. I think that we're going to record. It should be a, uh, a fun one. And then we have a collective research recording in the works. That'll be a fun time. So keep an eye out for that. But otherwise, everyone you can reach us at the day's dumpster fire gmail.com. We also have a website, today's dumpster viacom. We have an instagram if you want to check that out at today's dumpster fire. It's all pretty standard. Sure you're getting a pattern. It's fine. Really sell on that. We're doing great. Graham.

Deja:

It's so good. It's. It's like. Ten out of ten.

Kara:

Thank you, David. That's what we're here for. That's what she's here for. It is mediocre at the best. Anyway.

Deja:

No, it's

Kara:

At this.

Deja:

magnificent.

Kara:

If you like the show, please read review. It really helps us out. You can find our show anywhere. You get your podcasts and keep it a hot mess. My line.

Deja:

Thanks. Oh. Bye bye. All right.

Kara:

So of. Still. She just ran through everything really fast. I'm just so upset about it.

Deja:

It's like, Wait a minute. You can't just spot. All right, guys. We'll catch you next time. Bye.

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